tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907443983750294322.post9097635070128318470..comments2023-11-05T03:49:34.614-08:00Comments on Lost Kite: Whitman knew betterhollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06973648530219556353noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907443983750294322.post-48319398940452774792008-07-30T09:32:00.000-07:002008-07-30T09:32:00.000-07:00Nathan...thanks for clarifying...it got me to thin...Nathan...thanks for clarifying...it got me to thinking that much more, eh? That's what I meant...what you said about "set poetry laws" and having to enforce them...Most of us are poets because we are trying to think outside boundaries...yes?<BR/><BR/>At the same time, if that is the case about "set poetry laws" how do we teach poetry to students? Well, I have been dealing with that, and I have my own methods, but that's another ball of string...you know?hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06973648530219556353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907443983750294322.post-4619709905233007762008-07-30T06:33:00.000-07:002008-07-30T06:33:00.000-07:00With my question I just meant why do they exist? I...With my question I just meant why do they exist? It's more rhetorical I guess. I just think the idea of having some set of "poetry laws" in your head and then to go around trying to enforce them is so stupid.<BR/>You're right about learning about poetry though. The forms of poetry and its history should be known just as much as the the living manifestation of poetry now should be known.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552467037640904091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907443983750294322.post-66198651841335405842008-07-30T06:08:00.000-07:002008-07-30T06:08:00.000-07:00Actually, I changed my mind. I want to address th...Actually, I changed my mind. I want to address the poetry nazi issue further...<BR/>I think it is important for students of poetry (on some level) to understand the history of forms, and how important each one has been in the history of poets...<BR/>However, I also think that, like art, that once a poet does know that history, in this "modern poetry" society, that a poet can do what they like to "play" with form. <BR/><BR/>Also, like art, though, I do think that defining what poetry "is" and "isn't" is a tough one...and people who know nothing about the history of poetry, who write poems, have just as much right to call it a poem...for a comparison, folk art...Folk artists have had no formal training, but their art is still art...<BR/>Okay, I'm done with that subject for now.hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06973648530219556353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907443983750294322.post-75210032834151465612008-07-30T06:00:00.000-07:002008-07-30T06:00:00.000-07:00Thank you Julie, Scot, Nathan, and Cynthia, as alw...Thank you Julie, Scot, Nathan, and Cynthia, as always, so supportive and kind.<BR/><BR/>Nathan, as far as poetry Nazis, I just have my own opinions about form and structure, and how I can do with it what I will... (I think Cynthia said it well). I'm not sure I answered your question (not that I could), and I don't know if it was a serious question or not...sorry. <BR/><BR/>Scot, you made me laugh...thank you. :)hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06973648530219556353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907443983750294322.post-10849936765483194932008-07-30T04:11:00.000-07:002008-07-30T04:11:00.000-07:00You are so right Holly, there is so much opportuni...You are so right Holly, there is so much opportunity to keep oursleves hidden; and the poor earth!<BR/><BR/>Yes, the poet Nazis, a distateful<BR/>group of self-appointed dinos. <BR/><BR/>I enjoy the journal where all the poems aren't cookie cutters of the loast poem.Cynthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10598169309616545734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907443983750294322.post-89861542715860034862008-07-30T03:53:00.000-07:002008-07-30T03:53:00.000-07:00Love the tone here and of course you're right.Also...Love the tone here and of course you're right.<BR/>Also, why are there poetry nazis?Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552467037640904091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907443983750294322.post-84261932674860932442008-07-30T03:35:00.000-07:002008-07-30T03:35:00.000-07:00looks like a paragraph to me...(sorry, just kiddin...looks like a paragraph to me...(sorry, just kidding)Scothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719725764131827872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907443983750294322.post-22966787625584130242008-07-29T17:21:00.000-07:002008-07-29T17:21:00.000-07:00OH, YES! Love that last line. Love it all.OH, YES! Love that last line. Love it all.Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450349194426386685noreply@blogger.com